"Shop owners have to be miners to get any sort of business. I don't know of any successful shops that don't sell mined materials or their refined products (like buckets and rails).... except for perhaps Minemall which seems to thrive off of wool sales."
While this is true, it completely ignores this point:
-Users buy from other shops and sell their goods at slightly higher prices to keep in stock and keep a good image for their shop"
I did this all the time with Globoshop, so I could keep in stock. Other players did it constantly as well. While all shops require materials to be mined, the current economy is still grossly in favour of shop owners, no matter what light you put it in. This is a valid fact. If you don't agree, what argument can you come up against my other points?
Points:
-The best shop owner has a monopoly over other shop owners.
-The current economy is setup so trade is almost completely unnecessary/irrelevant
-How does anyone earn money other than sitting around all day, gaining interest, or owning a shop?
-Shop owners will constantly fight each other over prices and lower them, despite demand. (Even with a server run shop)
Gold Standard Pros:
-Trade becomes valuable
-Gold has more usage
-The gap between the wealthy and the poor would be fixed
-Money could be earned without a shop or without sitting around.
-There would be a set price for things, inflation would only occur with the amount of gold people have.
-A server shop could still be implemented with a gold standard economy.
These are 4 major problems the gold system would fix, with only minor drawbacks. And yes, a main goal is to separate the gap between the wealthy and the poor. We're all focusing on the negative of the gold standard, when clearly the negative is outweighed by the positive. As Indrae said, the conversion is made because I don't want Justincasekazoo (or myself) having 1000 blocks of gold, it's just ridiculous to have that much gold in the Economy. It would crash due to inflation. This is why I think the initial conversion from dollars to gold should be high, and then our server can run on whatever prices it is comfortable with afterward.
@Shpp: I'm pushing the gold standard because I am sick of users needing to bust their rump to maintain their shops. I'm fighting it because I want people to operate on an equal platform for earning money. I am an Admin, shpp, I can spawn -anything- I want. What benefit(s) would I get personally, for promoting any currency system? None. (Granted I won't spawn anything because it's not right or legit) EDIT: I don't even have the time to operate a shop as an Admin anyway, nor any time to mine.
EDIT: I changed the votes from 11 to 10 for Option 2 to account for Charlie's second vote. Thanks for the heads up Fire.
While this is true, it completely ignores this point:
-Users buy from other shops and sell their goods at slightly higher prices to keep in stock and keep a good image for their shop"
I did this all the time with Globoshop, so I could keep in stock. Other players did it constantly as well. While all shops require materials to be mined, the current economy is still grossly in favour of shop owners, no matter what light you put it in. This is a valid fact. If you don't agree, what argument can you come up against my other points?
Points:
-The best shop owner has a monopoly over other shop owners.
-The current economy is setup so trade is almost completely unnecessary/irrelevant
-How does anyone earn money other than sitting around all day, gaining interest, or owning a shop?
-Shop owners will constantly fight each other over prices and lower them, despite demand. (Even with a server run shop)
Gold Standard Pros:
-Trade becomes valuable
-Gold has more usage
-The gap between the wealthy and the poor would be fixed
-Money could be earned without a shop or without sitting around.
-There would be a set price for things, inflation would only occur with the amount of gold people have.
-A server shop could still be implemented with a gold standard economy.
These are 4 major problems the gold system would fix, with only minor drawbacks. And yes, a main goal is to separate the gap between the wealthy and the poor. We're all focusing on the negative of the gold standard, when clearly the negative is outweighed by the positive. As Indrae said, the conversion is made because I don't want Justincasekazoo (or myself) having 1000 blocks of gold, it's just ridiculous to have that much gold in the Economy. It would crash due to inflation. This is why I think the initial conversion from dollars to gold should be high, and then our server can run on whatever prices it is comfortable with afterward.
@Shpp: I'm pushing the gold standard because I am sick of users needing to bust their rump to maintain their shops. I'm fighting it because I want people to operate on an equal platform for earning money. I am an Admin, shpp, I can spawn -anything- I want. What benefit(s) would I get personally, for promoting any currency system? None. (Granted I won't spawn anything because it's not right or legit) EDIT: I don't even have the time to operate a shop as an Admin anyway, nor any time to mine.
(08-11-2012, 06:20 PM)fire897 Wrote: Just to clarify, Charlie used two accounts to vote for option 2 so subtract 1 vote from option 2 when looking at the poll.
EDIT: I changed the votes from 11 to 10 for Option 2 to account for Charlie's second vote. Thanks for the heads up Fire.